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Across the Border to Spook Country
For the last few decades, William Gibson, who grew up in Virginia and elsewhere in the United States, has lived in Vancouver, British Columbia, just across the border from Amazon.com's Seattle headquarters, which made for a short drive for a lunchtime interview before the release of Spook Country. We met just a few miles from where the storylines of the new novel, in a rare scene set in Gibson's own city, converge. You can read the full transcript of the interview, in which we discussed, among other things, writing in the age of Google, visiting the Second Life virtual world, the possibilities of science fiction in an age of rapid change, and his original proposal for Spook Country, which we have available for viewing on our site. Here are a few excerpts from the interview:
Amazon.com: Could you start by telling us a little bit about the scenario of the new book?
William Gibson: It's a book in which shadowy and mysterious characters are using New York's smallest crime family, a sort of boutique operation of smugglers and so-called illegal facilitators, to get something into North America. And you have to hang around to the end of the book to find out what they're doing. So I guess it's a caper novel in that regard.
Amazon.com: The line on your last book, Pattern Recognition was that the present had caught up with William Gibson's future. So many of the things you imagined have come true that in a way it seems like we're all living in science fiction now. Is that the way you felt when you came to write that book, that the real world had caught up with your ideas?
Gibson: Well, I thought that writing about the world today as I perceive it would probably be more challenging, in the real sense of science fiction, than continuing just to make things up. And I found that to absolutely be the case. If I'm going to write fiction set in an imaginary future now, I'm going to need a yardstick that gives me some accurate sense of how weird things are now. 'Cause I'm going to have to go beyond that. And I think over the course of these last two books--I don't think I'm done yet--I've been getting a yardstick together. But I don't know if I'll be able to do it again. I don't know if I'll be able to make up an imaginary future in the same way. In the '80s and '90s--as strange as it may seem to say this--we had such luxury of stability. Things weren't changing quite so quickly in the '80s and '90s. And when things are changing too quickly, as one of the characters in Pattern Recognition says, you don't have any place to stand from which to imagine a very elaborate future.
Amazon.com: Now that you're writing about the present, do you consider yourself a science fiction writer these days? Because the marketplace still does.
Gibson: I never really believed in the separation. But science fiction is definitely where I'm from. Science fiction is my native literary culture. It's what I started reading, and I think the thing that actually makes me a bit different than some of the science fiction writers I've met who are my own age is that I discovered Edgar Rice Burroughs and William Burroughs in the same week. And I started reading Beat poets a year later, and got that in the mix. That really changed the direction. But it seems like such an old-fashioned way of looking at things. And it's better not to be pinned down. It's a matter of where you're allowed to park. If you can park in the science fiction bookstore, that's good. If you can park in the other bookstore, that's really good. If people come and buy it at Amazon, that's really good.
I'm sure I must have readers from 20 years ago who are just despairing of the absence of cyberstuff, or girls with bionic fingernails. But that just the way it is. All of that stuff reads so differently now. I think nothing dates more quickly than science fiction. Nothing dates more quickly than an imaginary future. It's acquiring a patina of quaintness even before you've got it in the envelope to send to the publisher.
Amazon.com: So do you think that's your own career path, that you're less interested in imagining a future, or do you think that the world is changing?
Gibson: I think it's actually both. Until fairly recently, I had assumed that it was me, me being drawn to use this toolkit I'd acquired when I was a teenager, and using my old SF toolkit in some kind of attempt at naturalism, 21st-century naturalistic fiction. But over the last five to six years it's started to seem to me that there's something else going on as well, that maybe we're in what the characters in my novel Idoru call a "nodal point," or a series of them. We're in a place where things could just go anywhere. A couple of weeks ago I happened to read Charlie Stross's argument as to why he believes that there will never, ever be any manned space travel. It's not going to happen. We're not going to colonize Mars. All of that is just a big fantasy. And it's so convincing. I read that and I'm like, "My god, there goes so much of the fiction I read as a child."
| AUTHOR: | William Gibson |
| CATEGORY: | Book |
| MANUFACTURER: | Thorndike Press |
| ISBN: | 1410403114 |
| FEATURES: | Large Print |
| TYPE: | Fiction, Fiction - Mystery/ Detective, Mystery/Suspense, Mystery & Detective - General, Suspense |
| MEDIA: | Hardcover |
| # OF MEDIA: | 1 |
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Customer Reviews of Spook Country (Thorndike Press Large Print Mystery Series)
Deep voice, descriptive prose -- I've read this book in the printed format, as well as listened to this audio production of the piece. Robertson Dean's voice is a deep, sonorous rumble that manages to convey all of Gibson's carefully crafted descriptions clearly. Given this basso kick, I was worried about how the women-characters' voices would be portrayed. I was impressed with his performance! Dean manages several distinct characters, ethnicities, and accents fluidly. <
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>Gibson's writing becomes more and more contemporary with each book, and this novel lands his characters face-first in our own current history. Having his characters spindle, fold, and mutilate the phrase 'cyberspace' seems appropriately recursive considering that they are dealing with the effects of real-world research into locative computing. The few premises that he asks you to accept are more than plausible, and the real-world big picture he paints isn't something most people would like to think too hard about. However, this is the world we're in (with the addition of some really sexy-sounding assisted-reality gear outfitted with GPS). <
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>Hubertas Bigend is back - the second novel featuring the patron from Pattern Recognition. The character, while intriguing, seems particularly alien to me. I know there are people like him in the world, but I don't think I'd like to be anywhere near where his interests lie. <
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>I enjoy Gibson's fiction for the things that are unstated; the plot drapes itself over and through several groups of characters. As the omniscient reader, we get to put these things together. We aren't spoken down to and fed the whole thing one byte at a time. Bigend is also aware of his world by bits and pieces, except you begin to think he's got more, unpublished chapters than we do. His tendency is to pursue those loose ends and see where else they're attached to. Bigend has Monkey-mind in spades. <
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>High marks for Spook Country - original, thoughtful, and eloquent.
Not actively bad, merely boring
This book was my first exposure to Mr. Gibson's work. Of course, I was very familiar with his name, if not his past plots. Given the high expectations that his name recognition generated, I was certainly expecting more. Much more. None of the characters were ever really developed...owing to the maddeningly short chapters, usually only two and one half pages long. The plot was convoluted enough that it set up significant expectations for a grand pay-off at the final climax...which never really came. This seems like more like a book more about "atmosphere" than plot..an atmosphere of suspicion, of shadowy figures behind the scenes pulling the strings of events. Unfortunately, if that was the intent, the atmosphere was too thin to sustain a full novel. I only finished out of a personal need not to leave a purchased book unfinished.
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>One aside: Tito, the special ops expert, was apparently being guided by some kind of supernatural forces; "orisha" is cited again and again. No clear explanation (that I recall) is really given for these things and I had to look them up online. Being that this is not common knowledge, I think the author has some obligation to explain better. It seems odd to insert these spiritual forces into an otherwise colorless technological world.
Out of the Locative
Customer reviews for each new William Gibson novel display a disconcerting pattern. Many who claim to be fans criticize each release for what it is NOT - usually "Neuromancer" and now "Pattern Recognition" as well. Granted, not all of Gibson's novels succeed equally, but at least he strives for new ideas, and it is especially unfair to continually judge a veteran author based on one classic that he released 23 years ago. If you want a writer who cranks out the exact same material for decades on end, read romance novels - and then see how quickly you get bored with that author whom you supposedly love so much. With all that being said, one legitimate issue with Spook Country is the dreary and slow-moving vibe, with rather colorless action fueled by characters that are fairly interesting but not particularly likeable. Speaking of characters, here Gibson has badly worn out a tired old literary device with not just one but two mysterious masterminds, and having characters refuse to explain things to each other is a pretty annoying method of building suspense. But on the other hand, here Gibson has constructed a strangely fascinating conspiracy with a cutting-edge political angle that I don't think too many other reviewers appreciate enough (or even noticed). We also see that Gibson, regardless of the success of any particular book, is still one of the modern masters of intricately intertwined plotlines and detailed observations of modern techno-dread. Sure this book has some flaws, but it should be critiqued for the right reasons. [~doomsdayer520~]